Catus Marinus написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #406727
смысл имела бы полная публикация

Такая публикация всегда имеет смысл. Но всегда есть и какие-то препятствия: деньги, время и т.д. Думаю, если человек, располагающий полным текстом, захочет его опубликовать, то попробует найти тот печатный орган, который согласится, но едва ли кроме журнала, вроде "Исторического архива" и т.п. захочет публиковать целиком разноплановый текст. Во всяком случае, дорогу осилит идущий. Стучите, и откроется вам.

Возможно, проще дать цитату. Едва ли там на этот счет много написано.

Catus Marinus написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #409139
Лет двадцать назад этот документ сподвиг известного севастопольского краеведа Е.В. Веникеева (не взыщите специалиста в области архитектуры и строительства) на художественное произведение "Звездный час «Весты»,

Гм, странно, ведь основные положения описания боя этого произведения ориентируются скорее на описание боя З.П.Рожественского.
Да и как документ с гиперкритическим отношением к канонической версии мог сподвигнуть на создание произведения, на на йоту от таковой версии  не отступающей?

сарычев
Увы, и здесь Рождественский...

Кстати, лейтенант Рождественский командовал одним из катеров "Константина".  Уж не родственник ли?

NMD написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #409219
Кстати, лейтенант Рождественский командовал одним из катеров "Константина". Уж не родственник ли?

Даже не однофамилец
Да и командовал он не одним из катеров "Константина", а миноноской №2, которая была только придана Макарову на усиление на один поход в конце мая.

Catus Marinus написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #409139
но не торопите

Об этом нет речи. Тем не менее, практика показывает, что долгие сборы имеют тенденцию затягиваться до бесконечности.

NMD написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #409362
Это будущий командир "Победы" и Николаевский градоначальник?

Его брат Измаил http://tsushima.su/forums/viewtopic.php?id=463&p=2
А сам Василий тоже был на Дунае. Командирован для сопровождения команд с Балтийского в Черноморский флот (19.09.1877). На катере Главного командира Черноморского флота и портов в плаваниях на Нижне-Дунайском отряде капитана 1 ранга Казнакова (21.10.1877-20.03.1878).

А вот что писала пресса
The Brisbane Courier,Wednesday 3 October 1877

Combat Between a Merchant mun

and an Ironclad.

TI
In

The Times Prussian correspondent writes as
follows :?" Four months ago Captain Baranoff, of
the Imperial Russian Navy, published a remark-
able article in tho Gotos, upon tho late Mr.
Elder's circular vessels and the advantage to bo
derived by his couutry from ironclnds. Captain
Baranoff went on to say that Russia, in Ilia
opinion, required no ironclads at all, neither
circular nor oblong. According to him, it had
been absolutely proved in the Crimean War that
however strong iu themselves, ships will alwaya
succumb to the heavier artillery that may bo
brought to bear upon them from tho shore. As
regards combat on tho high seas, he was likewise
inclined to think that the most powerful
cuirass had no chanco against tho still
moro powerful artillery sure to fall foul

of it. Ho advised tho Government to
abandon tho construction of ironclads,
avoid naval battles, and confine operations
at sea to tho lotting loose of a numbor of
cruisers against tho enemy's merchantmen.
The cruisers ho proposed to station chiefly on
tho Pacific shore of the Russian Empire,
whence they could easily bo sent to ma-
noeuvre in tho rear of any enemy likely to
be opposed to his couutry. Thoao naval en-
gagements that could not bo avoided Captain
Baranoff preferred fighting with small craft,
making up by agility and speed what they
lacked in cuirass, and if tho worst came to tho
worst, easily replaced by other specimens of
tho same type. Tho author soon aftor
tho beginning of the present war was
given to understand by tho Admiralty thnt they
did not object to his trying to provo by deed
what he had bo eloquently advocated in priut.
Accordingly, a few weeks ago, tho merchant
steamer Vesta, being placed at the disposal of tho
enterprising officer, was equipped for tho task in
hand. The Vesta is an ordinary iron steamer of
light build, till then employed in no more war-
like function thau tho eouveyunco of corn or
tallow from Russian to foreign shores. Yet, all
the preparation Captain Baranoff thought neces-
sary was to tnko some G-inch mort-irs on board,

to receive which the deck of tho steamer had to
bo strengthened. Thus slightly armed ho loft
Sebastopol on tho 21st ultimo at dawn, and
on tho morning of tho 23rd, thirty-five
miles from Kustendje, fell iu with the
Turkish ironclad Assari Tefvik, n formid-
able vessel with a 12-inch cuirass and the

proper complement of 9 in. guns of 12 tou weight.
What made tho Turk an especially terrible adver-
sary was a speed of 20 knots an hour. Captain
Baranoff engaged the Assari Tefvik without hesi;
tation, and maintained tho fight for fivo hours.
Ab far as can be gathered from thc intelligence
already received, the Vesta's superior manoeuvr-
ing capacity effectually kept tho Turk in check,
though the distance between tho two vessels was
repeatedly lessened to tho space required for a
tolling rifle fire. The Assail Tefvik, too, not-
withstanding tho tremendous thickness of her
armor, thought it, discreet to keep constantly
moving about with extraordinary alertness and
Bpeed. At least, this is tho conclusion drawn

from tho fact that tho Turkish veBsel in a

fivo hours' encounter, though abundantly
struck by small shot, received only threo of tho
enemy's balls. Ono of these seems to have dono
little harm. Tho second Bkot went right
through tho deck, kindling a fire, which waa
quickly extinguished. Tho third struck tho
turret, and created an impression which, had not
a couple of Turkish vessels come to tho rescuo of
their comrade, might havo given tho Vesta an
opportunity to do more, though crippled horsclf
by that tiino. Tho Voata in tho courso of tho
conflict had been hit by n grcnado cIobo to tho
powdor magazine, and had it not boen for tho
rapid measures taken by hoi- commander, would
assuredly havo been blown np. Worso thau
this, her rudder being struck, tho vcsboI could
not properly obey tho helm?a serious
drawback iu a fight in which safety mainly
dopeuded upon celerity. DcBpito this, Captain
Baranoff manugod to hold Iub own until, on
tho two other vessels coming to tho assistanoo
of the enemy, ho very wisely deemed discretion
the better part of valor and boat a retreat. At
this juncture tho Turks, pouring their shot into
their departing' adversary, indicted no little
damage, without, however, closoly following up
their bucccss. At dawn of tho 21th, tho gallant
steamer cast auchor again at Sebastopol, se-
riously injured, yet covered with glory. Of tho
crew threo officers and cloven mon wore killed,
two officers and four men seriously wounded, andFix this text
three officers and eleven men slightly wounded.
Among the last are Captaiu Baranoff and M.
Vladimir PorolcBchiuo, his First Lieutenant. In
fact scarcely any escaped unscathed. However
clumsily tho ironclad may havo boon managed,
there is tho foot of a merchantman fighting lier
for fivo hours aud inflicting as much damage as
she roceived."

Еще ипара ссылок на газеты,где всуе поминается Веста
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Geomorfolog написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #442274
А вот что писала пресса

Спасибо за находку.
Теперь оказывается Веста уже с Ассари-Тевфиком сражался.
А вот это вообще шедевр:

Geomorfolog написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #442274
What made tho Turk an especially terrible adver-
sary was a speed of 20 knots an hour

Пресса, что взять...

iTow написал:

Оригинальное сообщение #442822
. Полагаю, это австралийское издание.

Да,конечно,австралийское.Брисбен - столица Квинсленда,одного из штатов Австралии.

WITH HOBART PASHA IN THE BLACK SEA.

Admiral Hobart Pasha is back at Constantinople, conferring on future naval operations. He tels me that last week his flag-ship, the Athar Tevfik, just missed taking a very va'uable prize, On the morning of that day, whilst lying at anchor with a squadron off Varna, he discovered a Russian steamer, afterwards recognised as the Czar's yacht Eiryklyk, occupied in burning a merchant brig about fifteen miles from Cape Kaliakra. Instantly the Athar Tevfik gave chase, signaling the Fethi Bulend to accompany her, and going thirteen knots, soon diminished the enemy's six miles' start to five. The Eiryklyk then increased her speed to that of her pursuer, and consequently the two ships preserved the same distance for several hours. By sunset, however, Hobart gained another mile, and the Muscovite was then not more than four miles off, but he never got closer, owing I believe, to the cruel misfortune of his chief engineer, an Englishman, having been sent ashore at Verna to buy oil. This officer declares he could have knocked an extra knot out of the Athar Tevfik and I can quite understand it, for although his Turkish subordinates worked gallantly and well, they are without the knowledge and experience of their chief. As it happened, daylight found engineers and firemen terribly exhausted and the Athar Tevfik only making twelve knots, the foe six miles ahead, and Sebastopol, for which he was steering, full in view. Nevertheless with the hope of his breaking down, Hobart held on, and did not stop till within 300 yards of the harbour of the famous fortress. All was still. Not a muzzle frowned from the forts not a bayonet glanced on the walls silent as the grave lay Sebastopol. But the scene quickly changed. At the request of his chief of staff, Hobart allowed a shell to be fired at Fort Constantino, where it pitched beautifully. The echo of that cannon's roar was awfuL Without any warning, save such as might be gathered from the flashing of the mirrors with which the Russians concentrated their fire, a torrent of Bhot and shell tore through the air from masked batteries on right and left of the harbor's mouth and fell in a mass close to the Athar Tevfik. Luckily she was moving, or that splendidlydirected iron storm must inevitably have sunk her, for as it was her deck became wet with the spray. The Turkish crew behave admirably, and handled their 12-tons with coolness and accuracy but Hobart, fearing they did no harm, and seeing that he was risking a fine ironclad and 500 lives for no possibly commensurate result, steamed away just as the Fethi Bulend, which had dropped behind during the chase, rushed bravely into the action. Hobart at once recalled her, and not too soon, for her deck was deep in water from the heavy bolts, thrown by 35 or 40-ton guns, which hailed around her. Whilst the fight lasted Hobart noticed the funnel of a vessel stealing out from behind Fort Constantino, and at first thought that he had to deal with a Popoff, but the steamer proved to be a torpedo-boat, evidently despatched to complete the anticipated victory of the batteries. A shell, however, admonished her to be careful, and she speedily took the hint. A ludicrous mistake during the action reminded the admiral of this the latest weapon in naval warfare. His aide-de-camp suddenly raised a cry of fish-torpedoes they were only porpoises sporting in the sun between the ship and the fortress— but till then nobody had, in their eagerness of the race, remembered the foes that had too probably lurked below the glassy surface of the sea. If there were any they must have missed fire, for except the boat no sign of a torpedo could be discovered. The Turkish ship steamed out of the fight, if not untouched, at least unhurt, and without the loss of a single man but Hobart Pasha is now more than ever convinced that to attack modern earthworks, especially when they are masked, with ironclads is sheer madness. Hobart was astonished at the strength of Sebastopol, and the more so that the batteries are all quite new, the old well-remembered forts not firing a gun, and apparently unarmed. Odessa, he informs me, is still stronger, a